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James McCollom

Since the majority of bus services no longer operate via School Lane and Charcoal Road in Dunham Town, please could you add a bus stop in each direction on Woodhouse Lane near the junction with School Lane? Buses do currently stop to pick-up and set-down but the lack of a designated bus stop does not breed confidence for occasional travellers - of which there would be a number given the proximity to the National Trust grounds at Dunham Massey.

Problem History

  • 1 James McCollom reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 20:38 12 Sep 2011
  • 2 James McCollom wrote to Transport for Greater Manchester close 20:38 12 Sep 2011

    Here is the letter that James McCollom wrote.

    Please add a bus stop on Woodhouse Lane in Dunham Town

    Since the majority of bus services no longer operate via School Lane and Charcoal Road in Dunham Town, please could you add a bus stop in each direction on Woodhouse Lane near the junction with School Lane? Buses do currently stop to pick-up and set-down but the lack of a designated bus stop does not breed confidence for occasional travellers - of which there would be a number given the proximity to the National Trust grounds at Dunham Massey.

  • 3 Paul wilkinson commented close 11:39 13 Sep 2011

    I tried to raise this about about 18months ago. The then PTE initially passed me to Warrington BT who run the bus service 5 during the week, they passed it back, I tried the PTE again and spoke with

    Martin j powell
    Route development officer
    GMPTE
    13 april 2010

    He promised to look at it and come back to me but nothing came forward.

    It is a long way between stops when only the daytime Warrington Coachways 38 serves the stop in the village hourly rather than all the rest which go along the new "by-pass" road

  • 4 Myf Nixon advised James to write to Carla Flynn at The Messenger. close 11:29 14 Sep 2011

    Hi James,

    First, I'd agree that as a visitor unfamiliar with an area, I'd certainly be confused by a lack of bus stop and, as a non-driver, it would probably make me assume I couldn't visit the NT property at all.

    Second, since it sounds like this issue has already been raised with little success, I'm going to suggest you also raise it with the local press and your local councillor.

    I'm setting up some emails so that all you have to do is press the button to send them - or you can edit/overwrite them if you prefer (or indeed ignore them altogether if you'd rather not pursue the issue).

    Good luck!

    Myf Nixon

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  • 5 Myf Nixon advised James to write to Nicola Priest at the Warrington Guardian. close 11:30 14 Sep 2011

    Here is the address for the Warrington Guardian - same message.

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  • 6 Myf Nixon advised James to write to Michael Hyman. close 11:38 14 Sep 2011

    You have three local councillors and this is the email address for one of them; you can find out the rest at http://www.WriteToThem.com if you don't have any luck with this one.

    Councillors are responsible for "all aspects of local services and policy, including planning, transport, roads (except trunk roads and motorways), public rights of way, education, social services and libraries" - so a bus stop is within their remit.

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  • 7 James McCollom wrote to Michael Hyman following Myf Nixon's advice. close 14:41 14 Sep 2011

    Dear Mr Hyman,

    I am writing in the hope that you might be able to help me in my campaign to get a bus stop installed in each direction on Woodhouse Lane near the junction with School Lane.

    Buses do currently stop to pick-up and set-down but the lack of a designated bus stop does not breed confidence for occasional travellers - of which there would be a number given the proximity to the National Trust grounds at Dunham Massey.

    I have set up a page on http://www.fixmytransport.com/campaigns/add-a-bus-stop-on-woodhouse-lane-in-dunham-town which is already gathering support. Will you be able to aid me with this issue, which has been passed from PTE to bus company and back again with no resolution?

  • 8 James McCollom added an update close 14:43 14 Sep 2011

    I have contacted the Bowdon councillor in the first instance - TfGM are likely to pass the buck on road infrastructure matters to Trafford Council anyway - and then should we not get a helpful reply, we can look at the press option.

  • 9 Myf Nixon commented close 14:45 14 Sep 2011

    Good plan!

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  • 10 Hyman, Michael responded to James McCollom close 16:44 16 Sep 2011
    Dear Mr McCollom,

    Thank you for your e-mail. 

    I am happy to assist you in your endeavours and, to that end,
    have asked for information as to the correct person to contact. 
    Once I have that information, I shall put your request for a
    fixed bus stop (covering both directions) and revert to you on
    receiving a reply.

    Regards,
    Michael Hyman

    Cllr Michael Hyman JP
    Conservative Councillor for Bowdon Ward

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  • 11 Myf Nixon commented close 17:01 16 Sep 2011

    Excellent news that Michael Hyman is looking into this - well done.

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  • 12 Hyman, Michael responded to James McCollom close 11:32 19 Sep 2011
    Dear Mr McCollom,

    Further to my recent e-mail, I have spoken to one of Trafford's
    Traffic Engineers who covers the Altrincham area.  He informed
    me that Transport for Greater Manchester (previously GMPTE)
    actually make the decisions on the provision of bus stops and
    that Trafford Borough Council is just an organisation with
    whom they will consult for advice, together with Greater
    Manchester Police.

    Nevertheless, he will be pleased to pass on the enquiry you sent
    to me, ensuring that it is directed to the correct person (not
    always easy in a large organisation!)  I anticipate that
    Transport for Greater Manchester will be in touch with you
    directly, but assume that they will copy me in to any
    correspondence.

    Regards,
    Michael Hyman

    Cllr Michael Hyman JP
    Conservative Councillor for Bowdon Ward

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  • 13 [email address] responded to James McCollom close 10:33 27 Sep 2011
    Dear Mr McCollom

    Thank you for contacting us.

    I can confirm that a site visit has been arranged between
    Transport for Greater Manchester and Trafford Metropolitan
    Borough Council. This meeting will investigate options for bus
    stops on Woodhouse Lane near to the junctions with School Lane
    and Charcoal Lane for residents of Dunham.

    If a safe location is identified, a consultation will take place
    with residents within 25 metres of the proposed stop location
    and with local bus operators.

    Kind regards

    Customer Relations

    Transport for Greater Manchester

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    Original Text

    From: [add a bus stop on Woodhouse Lane in Dunham Town email]
    To: [Transport for Greater Manchester problem reporting email]
    <[email address]>
    CC:
    Sent: 12.09.11 20:40:03
    Subject: Problem Report: Please add a bus stop on Woodhouse Lane
    in Dunham Town

    Dear Transport for Greater Manchester,

    The problem report below has been sent to you via the website
    FixMyTransport.com.

    It refers to a problem at the Woodhouse Lane (NWbnd) bus stop

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  • 14 Myf Nixon commented close 15:23 27 Sep 2011

    Great news all round!

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  • 15 Hyman, Michael responded to James McCollom close 12:26 29 Sep 2011
    Dear Mr McCollom,

    By way of an update and subsequent to my conversation with one
    of our Traffic Engineers, I can confirm that an on-site meeting
    has now taken place in Dunham between that engineer and a
    representative from Transport for Greater Manchester.  Final
    confirmation as to whether a fixed bus stop can be provided
    should be available in the next few weeks. 

    I am pleased that we have been able to make some progress and I
    shall be in touch with you as soon as I know anything further.

    Regards,
    Michael Hyman

    Cllr Michael Hyman JP
    Conservative Councillor for Bowdon Ward
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  • 16 Hyman, Michael responded to James McCollom close 15:04 08 Dec 2011
    Dear Mr McCollom,

    Further to our correspondence a little while ago about a Bus
    Stop in Dunham Massey, I am now pleased to be able to update you
    on developments. 

    New bus stops have been agreed, with transport for Greater
    Manchester, on Smithy Lane in Dunham and the work associated to
    introduce them is highlighted on the attached sketch match.  The
    work will be carried out in the new year. In addition to the
    creation of the stops, there will also be some additional
    dropped kerbs introduced which are also shown on the plan.

    Regards,

    Michael Hyman

    Cllr Michael Hyman JP

    Conservative Councillor for Bowdon Ward

    Chairman of the Community Wellbeing Select Committee

    Trafford - Host Borough for London 2012 Olympic Football

    This email and its attachments are confidential and are intended
    for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in
    error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this
    email from your system. The Council may be required to disclose
    this email or any response to it under the Freedom of
    Information Act 2000.

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  • 17 James McCollom commented close 16:46 08 Dec 2011

    Excellent news!

  • 18 Myf Nixon commented close 17:02 08 Dec 2011

    Yippee!
    As soon as you see the new bus stops, please do come back and mark this campaign as 'fixed'. :)

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  • 19 John Robinson commented close 17:45 07 Feb 2012

    These bus stop are now being installed :)

  • 20 Paul wilkinson commented close 18:30 07 Feb 2012

    Hurrah!

    I look forward to using it next time I am out that way.

    The wheels on the bus go round and round - slowly!!

    Paul W

  • 21 Paul wilkinson commented close 08:09 11 Feb 2012

    Looks like a bit of extended tarmac inbound to Altrincham but no poles yet!

  • 22 Paul wilkinson commented close 11:22 15 Apr 2012

    These two extra stops are now in use.

    However anyone waiting daytime at the Altrincham bound stop for a 38 as per the route numbers listed, will have a long wait as they still go through the village as per the original routre. Only Evenings and Sundays 38 stop at the new stop inbound to Altrincham.

    Anyway - a result (of sorts)!

    PaulW

  • 23 James McCollom commented close 21:46 15 Apr 2012

    That must have happened since Tuesday. Good news - don't forget the 5 will stop in both directions too.

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