“Please help me persuade London Midland to always provide a 4 carriage service between SHR and BHM” – Ben Whitehouse

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Ben Whitehouse

This service was overcrowded and many passengers were unable to get onto the train due to the service being two carriages instead of four.

Can you explain why this was a two carriage service rather than four?

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  • 1 Ben Whitehouse reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 12:24 18 Oct 2012
  • 2 Ben Whitehouse wrote to London Midland close 12:24 18 Oct 2012

    Here is the letter that Ben Whitehouse wrote.

    18th October 2012- Two Carriage Service from Shrewsbury to Birmingham New Street

    This service was overcrowded and many passengers were unable to get onto the train due to the service being two carriages instead of four.

    Can you explain why this was a two carriage service rather than four?

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  • 3 Comments responded to Ben Whitehouse close 12:25 18 Oct 2012
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  • 4 Emma Kasprzak commented close 12:36 18 Oct 2012

    This affects a lot of people in Shropshire and South Staffordshire. When trains are overcrowded and you can't get on as a season ticket holder you are left paying for a service you cannot use.

  • 5 London Midland responded to Ben Whitehouse close 15:20 29 Oct 2012
    Dear Mr Whitehouse,

    Thank you for your e-mail regarding the short-forming of our 07:14
    Shrewsbury to Birmingham New Street service on 18 October 2012.

    I would firstly like to offer my sincere apologies for the crowding
    on-board the train that morning. The service in question is booked to be
    formed of two of our Class 170 2-car trains. Regrettably on the 18 October
    we had three of these trains unserviceable at Tyseley Depot in Birmingham,
    two with defects and one receiving an examination. Our fleet schedules are
    created with an understanding that a certain number of sets will be out of
    use; in fact we can operate a fully-formed weekday service of Class 170
    trains with two being out of use. Of course on this date three were
    unusable, and as no suitable alternative units were available, we were left
    with no other option other than short-forming one train diagram during the
    day.

    The second 2-car train that provides important extra capacity to the 07:14
    from Shrewsbury only forms one additional service before stepping down for
    the day. In view of this our Fleet team decided to shorten this train, as
    against one that is due to be in service for full duration of the day, as
    doing so would clearly inconvenience a disproportionate amount of
    customers. Nevertheless I can fully appreciate the discomfort that you and
    your fellow commuters encountered that morning and I would like to offer my
    sincere apologies once more.

    Having looked at the formation of this train for the last working week (22
    October to 26 October inclusive) I'm pleased to note that the service
    operated to its full compliment of 4 coaches on each morning. We of course
    do all we can to keep our services to their correct formation and I do hope
    that this is shown in your forthcoming journeys with us.

    Thank you once again for your e-mail.

    Yours sincerely,

    Dennis Taplin
    Customer Relations Advisor

    London Midland, P O Box 4323, Birmingham, B2 4QT

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