“Please help me persuade Abellio London and Transport for London to an explaination, rather than just telling me, it is being dealt with. ” – Mark Bielecki

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Mark Bielecki

To whom it may concern,

I feel, I have to have a moan about a rubbish service from one of your drivers yesterday 20th November 2011.

I caught the 407 from South Croydon at around 1220 hrs and all seemed ok, until we got to West Croydon and the driver got a telling off, in front of the passenger’s, your customers, that he was running late. This made for dangerous and erattic driving. This was bad enough, but what was to follow was the worst part of any journey, I have ever experienced.

We got to The Plough, where normally, drivers would be changed. This did not happen and the at the next stop, after radio contact with your driver and someone else, this was from the driver, “we are not going to Sutton now, you are getting out at Carshalton High Street”

This was unacceptable and we had to wait for another bus, in the cold 15 minutes and no apology from an ignorant driver in a following bus.

There were three girls at the front, sat near the driver, that asked him if they could get off and some explanation!

They were told “cant you hear, do you have anything between your ear’s. This is a great and sad story. Our reporters could have a field day?????

Is this common practise, to treat your customers this badly?

With respect, I expect some sort of explanation within 48 hrs.

Thank you.

Mark Bielecki
[personal details redacted]

Problem History

  • 1 Mark Bielecki reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 12:34 01 Dec 2011
  • 2 Mark Bielecki wrote to Abellio London close 12:34 01 Dec 2011

    Here is the letter that Mark Bielecki wrote.

    Appalling service and still no explaination!

    To whom it may concern,

    I feel, I have to have a moan about a rubbish service from one of your drivers yesterday 20th November 2011.

    I caught the 407 from South Croydon at around 1220 hrs and all seemed ok, until we got to West Croydon and the driver got a telling off, in front of the passenger’s, your customers, that he was running late. This made for dangerous and erattic driving. This was bad enough, but what was to follow was the worst part of any journey, I have ever experienced.

    We got to The Plough, where normally, drivers would be changed. This did not happen and the at the next stop, after radio contact with your driver and someone else, this was from the driver, “we are not going to Sutton now, you are getting out at Carshalton High Street”

    This was unacceptable and we had to wait for another bus, in the cold 15 minutes and no apology from an ignorant driver in a following bus.

    There were three girls at the front, sat near the driver, that asked him if they could get off and some explanation!

    They were told “cant you hear, do you have anything between your ear’s. This is a great and sad story. Our reporters could have a field day?????

    Is this common practise, to treat your customers this badly?

    With respect, I expect some sort of explanation within 48 hrs.

    Thank you.

    Mark Bielecki
    Media Sales Consultant
    [personal details redacted]

  • 3 Customer Care responded to Mark Bielecki close 12:37 01 Dec 2011
    Dear Mr Bielecki

    Thank you for your email - all comments regarding our services in London
    must be forwarded to London Buses Customer Services whose contact
    details are as follows:

    London Buses Customer Services
    TFL London Streets
    4th Floor, Zone G7
    Palestra, 197 Blackfriars Road
    London, SE1 8NJ

    Telephone: 0845 300 7000 (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday)
    Email: [email address]

    Kind regards

    Janet Cameron
    Customer Services Officer

    Tel: 020 7788 8550
    Fax: 020 7788 8593

    Abellio London
    301 Camberwell New Road
    London, SE5 0TF

    www.abellio.co.uk

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  • 4 Myf Nixon commented close 14:07 01 Dec 2011

    Hi Mark,

    I've removed your personal details (address etc), as this is a public webpage. They will, however, have been sent on to Abellio.

    anorak
    admin
  • 5The problem report was resent to Transport for London 14:07 01 Dec 2011
  • 6 Myf Nixon commented close 14:08 01 Dec 2011

    Oh, and I've also forwarded it to TfL, as noted by Abellio.

    anorak
    admin
  • 7 [email address] responded to Mark Bielecki close 14:13 01 Dec 2011
    Thank you for your email. We can now confirm that this has been
    received.

    For further information about the Surface Transport Complaints
    and Feedback Policy including timescales, please see
    [1]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/about-tf...

    Problems with roadworks or other street faults? In support of
    the Mayor’s Streetworks Code of Conduct to help cut congestion,
    please report these issues by visiting
    [2]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/reportas...

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  • 8 [email address] responded to Mark Bielecki close 14:41 03 Jan 2012
    Our Ref:         1009914128

    Date:              03.01.2012

    Mr M Bielecki

    [email address]

    Dear Mr Bielecki

    Re: Route 407 Driver

    Thank you for your email dated 1 December. Please accept my
    apologies for the delay in response. I was concerned to learn of
    your experience while travelling on bus route 407, and I am
    sorry for the inconvenience and upset caused as a consequence.

    Our bus drivers have a duty to provide passengers with a safe,
    smooth and comfortable journey. They are also considered to
    be the public face of London Buses. As such, they’re expected to
    behave in a polite and professional manner at all times. Poor
    driving standards, and rude and discourteous conduct, such as
    you have described, is completely unacceptable.

    If a bus is severely delayed, the route controller may ask a
    driver to stop the bus short of its usual destination. The bus
    can then turn around, and return to its usual timetable in the
    opposite direction. This action is taken for the benefit of a
    majority of passengers, as it allows an even service to be
    maintained across the route and prevents delays from building
    up.

    Nevertheless, I totally understand how frustrating it can be if
    you are on the bus that is curtailed. We expect controllers only
    to terminate buses early as a last resort. Furthermore, as
    previously mentioned, drivers should maintain a professional
    manner at all times. It is disappointing to learn that this was
    not your experience with the route 407 driver.

    The details of your complaint have been sent to Abellio London,
    who operate route 407 for us. I have asked that the Abellio
    London management endeavour to identify the driver in question
    and interview them. Please rest assured that appropriate action,
    in line with the company's internal procedures, will be taken as
    a result.

    Thank you for your correspondence on this subject. Please feel
    free to contact me if I can be of further assistance.

    Yours sincerely

    Paul Lawley

    Customer Services

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  • 9 Mark Bielecki commented close 13:10 26 Jan 2012

    I would like to hear what exactly happened with the driver.

    What if someone had been injured or killed?

    The lack of duty of care was not adhered to and a rude driver and ignorant following driver?

  • 10 Mark Bielecki commented close 13:33 08 Mar 2012

    I don't know whether the driver was disciplined, I do hope so, for safety's sake.

    Thank you.

  • 11 Mark Bielecki added an update close 13:34 08 Mar 2012

    God may know, if so, get him to call me please !!!

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