“Please help me persuade First Manchester to explain why they were unprepared” – Siobhan Wilkinson

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Siobhan Wilkinson

Today I was waiting at the bus stop outside the Urbis in Manchester city centre at approximately 13:15 to catch the 98 for what should have been a door to door, 40 minute journey on the 13:31 bus. After 14:00 a bus arrived but I'm not sure if this was the late 13:31 service or the 14:01 service. The bus driver was immediately antagonistic towards his customers, informing them in a rude tone, after several had already boarded and sat down, that after an hour wait it was likely that most of them would not get to where they wanted to go. When asked if he would be stopping at Radcliffe, Prestwich or Whitefield he didn't seem to know but continued to be rude as if asking the question was inappropriate. He finally decided he would be going as far as Whitefield but possibly not Radcliffe and would definitely bypass Prestwich Village. He was no more specific than this which was not useful to anyone. I asked what route he was taking to find out if he would be going to a road near my destination. He mentioned what I thought was Stowe Lane (it turned out to be Scholes Lane) and asked me in a rude, condescending tone if I knew where that was. I thought that was inappropriate and irrelevant but as he then mentioned Bury Old Road which was as close as an alternative would get me I boarded and we set off. Throughout the journey, as customers boarded he was rude to each one and very reluctant to give reasons for the diversion. At one point I heard him say, "It's not my fault people have decided to crash their cars." This seems an insensitive thing to say and, as the diversion was because of a parade, inaccurate. As we reached the diversion he pointed at the blocked off road and said, as if gloating, "There, for all of you who didn't believe me." I hadn't heard anyone express disbelief, just annoyance at the long wait (1hr+), his rudeness and the fact that he didn't know if he could get them to their destination.

Why did First buses seem unprepared for this parade which would surely have needed some kind of permit? Was there not enough notice for them to put up signage at bus stops warning of the diversion? Also if the diversion was due to the parade why did the bus driver not continue into Radcliffe once we were back on the usual route? I understand that there may be reasonable explanations but without them I am going to seriously consider using the tram in the future.

Thank you,
Siobhan W

Problem History

  • 1 Siobhan Wilkinson reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 19:21 17 Jun 2012
  • 2 Siobhan Wilkinson wrote to First Manchester close 19:21 17 Jun 2012

    Here is the letter that Siobhan Wilkinson wrote.

    Diversion for parade in Prestwich

    Today I was waiting at the bus stop outside the Urbis in Manchester city centre at approximately 13:15 to catch the 98 for what should have been a door to door, 40 minute journey on the 13:31 bus. After 14:00 a bus arrived but I'm not sure if this was the late 13:31 service or the 14:01 service. The bus driver was immediately antagonistic towards his customers, informing them in a rude tone, after several had already boarded and sat down, that after an hour wait it was likely that most of them would not get to where they wanted to go. When asked if he would be stopping at Radcliffe, Prestwich or Whitefield he didn't seem to know but continued to be rude as if asking the question was inappropriate. He finally decided he would be going as far as Whitefield but possibly not Radcliffe and would definitely bypass Prestwich Village. He was no more specific than this which was not useful to anyone. I asked what route he was taking to find out if he would be going to a road near my destination. He mentioned what I thought was Stowe Lane (it turned out to be Scholes Lane) and asked me in a rude, condescending tone if I knew where that was. I thought that was inappropriate and irrelevant but as he then mentioned Bury Old Road which was as close as an alternative would get me I boarded and we set off. Throughout the journey, as customers boarded he was rude to each one and very reluctant to give reasons for the diversion. At one point I heard him say, "It's not my fault people have decided to crash their cars." This seems an insensitive thing to say and, as the diversion was because of a parade, inaccurate. As we reached the diversion he pointed at the blocked off road and said, as if gloating, "There, for all of you who didn't believe me." I hadn't heard anyone express disbelief, just annoyance at the long wait (1hr+), his rudeness and the fact that he didn't know if he could get them to their destination.

    Why did First buses seem unprepared for this parade which would surely have needed some kind of permit? Was there not enough notice for them to put up signage at bus stops warning of the diversion? Also if the diversion was due to the parade why did the bus driver not continue into Radcliffe once we were back on the usual route? I understand that there may be reasonable explanations but without them I am going to seriously consider using the tram in the future.

    Thank you,
    Siobhan W

  • 3 [email address] responded to Siobhan Wilkinson close 10:04 18 Jun 2012
    Good morning,

    I am writing following receipt of your recent comments.

    This incident is currently under investigation and the details
    of your complaint have been passed on to our Customer Service
    Team.

    We are looking into the matter and as soon as we have finished
    the investigation a response will be sent within 10 working
    days.

    Thank you for your continued patience.
    Kind Regards

    First in Manchester
    Website Team

    Siobhan Wilkinson To [First Manchester problem reporting email]
    <[explain why they were unprepared email]> cc
    Subject Diversion for parade in
    17/06/2012 19:25 Prestwich

    Dear First Manchester,

    Today I was waiting at the bus stop outside the Urbis in
    Manchester
        city centre at approximately 13:15 to catch the 98 for what
    should
        have been a door to door, 40 minute journey on the 13:31
    bus. After
        14:00 a bus arrived but I'm not sure if this was the late
    13:31
        service or the 14:01 service. The bus driver was immediately
        antagonistic towards his customers, informing them in a rude
    tone,
        after several had already boarded and sat down, that after
    an hour
        wait it was likely that most of them would not get to where
    they
        wanted to go. When asked if he would be stopping at
    Radcliffe,
        Prestwich or Whitefield he didn't seem to know but continued
    to be
        rude as if asking the question was inappropriate. He finally
        decided he would be going as far as Whitefield but possibly
    not
        Radcliffe and would definitely bypass Prestwich Village. He
    was no
        more specific than this which was not useful to anyone. I
    asked
        what route he was taking to find out if he would be going to
    a road
        near my destination. He mentioned what I thought was Stowe
    Lane (it
        turned out to be Scholes Lane) and asked me in a rude,
        condescending tone if I knew where that was. I thought that
    was
        inappropriate and irrelevant but as he then mentioned Bury
    Old Road
        which was as close as an alternative would get me I boarded
    and we
        set off. Throughout the journey, as customers boarded he was
    rude
        to each one and very reluctant to give reasons for the
    diversion.
        At one point I heard him say, "It's not my fault people have
        decided to crash their cars." This seems an insensitive
    thing to
        say and, as the diversion was because of a parade,
    inaccurate. As
        we reached the diversion he pointed at the blocked off road
    and
        said, as if gloating, "There, for all of you who didn't
    believe
        me." I hadn't heard anyone express disbelief, just annoyance
    at the
        long wait (1hr+), his rudeness and the fact that he didn't
    know if
        he could get them to their destination.

    Why did First buses seem unprepared for this parade which
    would
        surely have needed some kind of permit? Was there not enough
    notice
        for them to put up signage at bus stops warning of the
    diversion?
        Also if the diversion was due to the parade why did the bus
    driver
        not continue into Radcliffe once we were back on the usual
    route? I
        understand that there may be reasonable explanations but
    without
        them I am going to seriously consider using the tram in the
    future.

    Thank you, Siobhan W

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