“Please help me persuade Arriva Trains Wales to have a reliable punctual service” – Stephen Hardwick

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Stephen Hardwick

I left Chester on the 8.20 Cardiff train for Ludlow.It arrived pretty much on time & was a comfortable journey.
I returned to the station at approx` 4.00 pm to return to Chester.
Numerous trains which were due to arrive did`nt. At 5.50pm a train arrived.The platform now had several hundred people on it. The guard on the train informed everyone that only the 2 front carriages could be used as the brakes had failed on the other carriages. The train was then overcrowded & there were a lot of unhappy people on the train. After several miles the train stopped for approx 15 minutes.It started again eventually arriving at Shrewsbury at approx` 6.30pm Everyone was told to get off the train.I was told the train was going on to Chester but i could`nt stay on due to the brake problem. As i had just travelled on this train from Ludlow this was a bit of a contradiction.
I got on the Manchester train as instructed to change at Crewe.
It got to Crewe at approx` 7.30. A train to Chester was due at 7.39. It never turned up.I got on the 8.20pm train arriving in Chester at 8.50 pm. I was due t go to a concert in Liverpool -the ticket cost £35.00 But i was too late to attend.
I naturally expect to be compensated for this atrocious service.
An Arriva driver informed me it was due to engine units persistently breaking down
. Stephen hardwick

Problem History

  • 1 Stephen Hardwick reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 12:14 12 Sep 2012
  • 2 Stephen Hardwick wrote to Arriva Trains Wales close 12:14 12 Sep 2012

    Here is the letter that Stephen Hardwick wrote.

    Return journey to Ludlow from Chester

    I left Chester on the 8.20 Cardiff train for Ludlow.It arrived pretty much on time & was a comfortable journey.
    I returned to the station at approx` 4.00 pm to return to Chester.
    Numerous trains which were due to arrive did`nt. At 5.50pm a train arrived.The platform now had several hundred people on it. The guard on the train informed everyone that only the 2 front carriages could be used as the brakes had failed on the other carriages. The train was then overcrowded & there were a lot of unhappy people on the train. After several miles the train stopped for approx 15 minutes.It started again eventually arriving at Shrewsbury at approx` 6.30pm Everyone was told to get off the train.I was told the train was going on to Chester but i could`nt stay on due to the brake problem. As i had just travelled on this train from Ludlow this was a bit of a contradiction.
    I got on the Manchester train as instructed to change at Crewe.
    It got to Crewe at approx` 7.30. A train to Chester was due at 7.39. It never turned up.I got on the 8.20pm train arriving in Chester at 8.50 pm. I was due t go to a concert in Liverpool -the ticket cost £35.00 But i was too late to attend.
    I naturally expect to be compensated for this atrocious service.
    An Arriva driver informed me it was due to engine units persistently breaking down
    . Stephen hardwick

  • 3 Peter Dixon commented close 15:43 12 Sep 2012

    Hello Stephen

    I am one of the FixMyTransport Volunteers. I am sorry to hear about the atrocious journey you had between Ludlow and Chester.

    Sadly, Arriva Trains Wales have chosen not to engage with its passengers through FixMyTransport. Unfortunately, you will have to contact them directly through their customer service department whose details are linked to below.

    http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/ContactUs/

    My advice would be to keep your rail tickets and tell them what date you travelled.

    I hope this helps and I am sorry for the inconvenience.

    Kind regards

    anorak
    admin
  • 4 Stephen Hardwick wrote to Arriva Trains Wales close 22:07 12 Sep 2012

    I took the 8.20 am train to Ludlow from Chester. The journey was fine & took approx` 1.hr 20mins. I returned to Ludlow station for the return journey ar approximately 16.00. many trains that were due did`nt show & one eventually came at 17.50. The platform had a large number of people on it due to the lack of trains.
    The guard told the passengers they could only use the 1st 2 coaches as the brakes had failed on the rear of the train.Due to this the train was very crowded.
    The train went a short distance & stopped for 15 minutes. It then carried on to Shrews bury where all the passengers had to get off.I was told the train was going on to Chester for repairs but i could not stay on it for safety reasons: very strange as this train had just carried 2 overcrowded carriages from Ludlow.
    I was advised to get the train to Crewe which I did. I arrived in Crewe at 19.30.
    A train to Chester was listed for 19.38. This train did not come. A train to Chester left at 20.20. I arrived at Chester station at 20.50. I was going to a concert in Liverpool that evening but this was not possible due to being delayed.
    I expect to be compensated for the dreadful service Arriva provided.
    A driver for Arriva informed me the trouble was down to engines continuously breaking down.
    yours sincerely Stephen Hardwick.

    ps I will send a copy of this to my local MP.

  • 5 Stephen Hardwick added an update close 22:09 12 Sep 2012

    I have complained about the service from Ludlow to Chester on the 8 9 2012.
    Delay was around 5 hours.
    Stephen Hardwick

  • 6 Stephen Hardwick asked for advice. close 22:10 12 Sep 2012

    How do I get a refund from Arriva?

  • 7 Paul Hollinghurst commented close 23:05 12 Sep 2012

    Stephen,

    The Arriva Trains Wales passenger charter can be downloaded from here.
    http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/PassengersCharter/
    Page 12 is the start of the section about compensation. You will need to send them your tickets and make the claim within 28 days of the journey.

    I hope this helps.

    Paul (FixMyTransport Volunteer)

    anorak
    admin
  • 8 Mark Jones commented close 23:07 12 Sep 2012

    Hello Stephen

    Unfortunately, Arriva are not engaging through FixMyTransport, therefore, I'd recommend contacting them through the contact details on their website.

    I am writing to the new Welsh Minister, and Clwyd West AM David Jones to express my disappointment at their lack of engagement, I'll add your campaign to the list of ones that have had no answer

    Good Luck, and let us know how things progress.

    anorak
    admin
  • 9 Customer Relations responded to Stephen Hardwick close 15:07 18 Sep 2012
    Thank you for contacting Arriva Trains Wales. Your message has
    been received and assigned the reference number  ATW-120912-1VK.

    Our usual target response time is ten working days, and we aim
    to provide you with a full reply within this timescale. If you
    have any queries in connection with your case, then please
    contact us on 08456 061 660. We're open between 8am and 8pm
    Mondays to Saturdays, or 11am until 8pm on Sundays.

    Please note that our role is primarily to investigate and
    respond to comments, complaints and suggestions regarding Arriva
    Trains Wales services. If you are planning a journey and need to
    find out times and fares, or to check if there is any disruption
    to services, please visit [1]www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk
    or [2]www.nationalrail.co.uk.

    Yours Sincerely

    Customer Relations

    Arriva Trains Wales 

    Diolch am gysylltu â Threnau Arriva Cymru. Mae’ch neges wedi
    cael ei derbyn a rhoddwyd iddi’r rhif cyfeirnod ATW-120912-1VK.

    Deg diwrnod gwaith yw’r amser ymateb rydym yn anelu ato fel
    arfer, a’n nod yw rhoi ateb llawn i chi cyn pen y cyfnod hwn. Os
    oes gennych unrhyw ymholiadau ynglŷn â’ch achos, cysylltwch â ni
    ar 08456 061 660. Rydym ar agor rhwng 8am ac 8pm o ddydd Llun i
    ddydd Sadwrn, neu rhwng 11am ac 8pm ar ddyddiau Sul.

    Nodwch mai ein swyddogaeth yn bennaf yw ymchwilio ac ymateb i
    sylwadau, cwynion ac awgrymiadau am wasanaethau Trenau Arriva
    Cymru. Os ydych chi’n cynllunio taith ac angen cael amserau a
    chostau tocynnau, neu holi a oes unrhyw darfu ar wasanaethau,
    ewch i [3]www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk
    neu [4]www.nationalrail.co.uk.

    Yn gywir

    Cysylltiadau Cwsmeriaid

    Trenau Arriva Cymru

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  • 10 Customer Relations responded to Stephen Hardwick close 09:24 19 Sep 2012
    Thank you for contacting Arriva Trains Wales. Your message has
    been received and assigned the reference number  ATW-120912-ZK2.

    Our usual target response time is ten working days, and we aim
    to provide you with a full reply within this timescale. If you
    have any queries in connection with your case, then please
    contact us on 08456 061 660. We're open between 8am and 8pm
    Mondays to Saturdays, or 11am until 8pm on Sundays.

    Please note that our role is primarily to investigate and
    respond to comments, complaints and suggestions regarding Arriva
    Trains Wales services. If you are planning a journey and need to
    find out times and fares, or to check if there is any disruption
    to services, please visit [1]www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk
    or [2]www.nationalrail.co.uk.

    Yours Sincerely

    Customer Relations

    Arriva Trains Wales 

    Diolch am gysylltu â Threnau Arriva Cymru. Mae’ch neges wedi
    cael ei derbyn a rhoddwyd iddi’r rhif cyfeirnod ATW-120912-ZK2.

    Deg diwrnod gwaith yw’r amser ymateb rydym yn anelu ato fel
    arfer, a’n nod yw rhoi ateb llawn i chi cyn pen y cyfnod hwn. Os
    oes gennych unrhyw ymholiadau ynglŷn â’ch achos, cysylltwch â ni
    ar 08456 061 660. Rydym ar agor rhwng 8am ac 8pm o ddydd Llun i
    ddydd Sadwrn, neu rhwng 11am ac 8pm ar ddyddiau Sul.

    Nodwch mai ein swyddogaeth yn bennaf yw ymchwilio ac ymateb i
    sylwadau, cwynion ac awgrymiadau am wasanaethau Trenau Arriva
    Cymru. Os ydych chi’n cynllunio taith ac angen cael amserau a
    chostau tocynnau, neu holi a oes unrhyw darfu ar wasanaethau,
    ewch i [3]www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk
    neu [4]www.nationalrail.co.uk.

    Yn gywir

    Cysylltiadau Cwsmeriaid

    Trenau Arriva Cymru

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  • 11 Customer Relations responded to Stephen Hardwick close 12:35 30 Sep 2012
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    30 September 2012

    Your Case Reference: ATW-120912-1VK

    Dear Mr Hardwick

    Thank you for your e-mail which has been received via
    FixmyTransport.com.

    Receiving feedback from our customers is important to us, and I
    am grateful for you taking time to report these issues. However,
    we would ask any customer wishing to log an issue with us to
    make direct contact with us, rather than submit it to us via a
    third party.

    Our e-mail address is
    [email address].

    We look forward to hearing from you in due course.

    Yours sincerely

    Rachel Evans

    Customer Relations Advisor

    Arriva Trains Wales

    Tel 0845 6061 660

    E-mail [email address]

    Web www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk

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  • 12 Customer Relations responded to Stephen Hardwick close 19:08 01 Oct 2012
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    01 October 2012

    Your Case Reference: ATW-120912-ZK2

    Dear Mr Hardwick

    Thank you for your e-mail which has been received via
    FixmyTransport.com.

    Receiving feedback from our customers is important to us, and I
    am grateful for you taking time to report these issues. However,
    we would ask any customer wishing to log an issue with us to
    make direct contact with us, rather than submit it to us via a
    third party.

    Our e-mail address is
    [email address].

    We look forward to hearing from you in due course.

    Yours sincerely

    Rachel Evans

    Customer Relations Advisor

    Arriva Trains Wales

    Tel 0845 6061 660

    E-mail [email address]

    Web www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk

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  • 13 Paul Hollinghurst commented close 23:39 01 Oct 2012

    Hello Stephen

    Unfortunately Arriva Trains Wales have chosen not to correspond with its passengers through FixMyTransport so you will have to contact them directly through their customer service department whose details here:

    http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/ContactUs/

    Paul (FixMyTransport Volunteer)

    anorak
    admin
  • 14 Stephen Hardwick commented close 17:13 26 Oct 2012

    Hi,
    I`ve received a voucher for £19.00 from Arriva. The ticket i had cost £15.00 so i have been
    compensated financially but not for the inconvenience.
    In the letter from Arriva it states that the delay was caused by signal failure. this is not true.
    The train that arrived late at Ludlow had brake failure.The guard said so at the time.An Arriva
    train driver at Crewe Station told me it was caused by engine failures in Wales starting at fishguard & continuing elsewhere. It`s quite insulting to be casually lied to by the person who sent the letter .

  • 15 Peter Dixon commented close 20:39 26 Oct 2012

    Hello Stephen

    I am one of the FixMyTransport volunteers.

    I am pleased to see that Arriva has compensated you for the delays. If you are unhappy with the response, you can ask Passenger Focus, the rail complaints watchdog to look into it. The complaints form is available on the following link.

    http://www.passengerfocus.org.uk/contact/passenger-help#complaint-form

    Kind regards

    anorak
    admin
  • 16 Stephen Hardwick commented close 21:56 07 Dec 2012

    Arriva reimbursed me for the delay
    The explanation for the delay was not true;
    a train driver on the day told me what the problem was : engines kept breaking down
    The letter I received stated it was signal failure.
    Thanks for the interest.
    Yours sincerely Stephen Hardwick

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