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Mr C.Capel
At 13.10 hours on 28th January 2012, I came out of Ahsley Avenue on to Cheriton High Street going towards army camp way, as I was starting to go past a empty bus tail end, the bus pulled off from the bus stop, I was by then along the middle of the bus and I had to go over the other side of the road and increase speed to get past to avoid the bus hitting my car.
The bus did not stop and by then I manage to get past and get back on to the correct side of the road.
Lucky for me the traffice was clear due to a ambulance going through the traffic lights at the COOP cross roads and the traffic stopped to let the ambulance through, this happend in seconds.
The bus driver did not stop at all and he turned in to Sommer set road Cheriton.
I was unable to get details as by then the traffic got busy.
I would like this to be investigated, this could of caused a accident, the driver must of not looked at his side mirror to pull out and was more interested to go of shift, or he had a blind spot and could not see me, but when I was along the side of him going past he would of by then and should of stop, I could not as I was on the wrong side of the road and traffic by hind me.
I wait for your reply.
Please contact me on [email address redacted]
Yours Sincerly
Mr CCapel
Problem History
- 1 Mr C.Capel reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 14:08 28 Jan 2012 #
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Mr C.Capel wrote to Shepway District Council and Kent County Council
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14:08 28 Jan 2012
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Here is the letter that Mr C.Capel wrote.
Bus pulling out along side of me and not stopping
At 13.10 hours on 28th January 2012, I came out of Ahsley Avenue on to Cheriton High Street going towards army camp way, as I was starting to go past a empty bus tail end, the bus pulled off from the bus stop, I was by then along the middle of the bus and I had to go over the other side of the road and increase speed to get past to avoid the bus hitting my car.
The bus did not stop and by then I manage to get past and get back on to the correct side of the road.
Lucky for me the traffice was clear due to a ambulance going through the traffic lights at the COOP cross roads and the traffic stopped to let the ambulance through, this happend in seconds.
The bus driver did not stop at all and he turned in to Sommer set road Cheriton.
I was unable to get details as by then the traffic got busy.
I would like this to be investigated, this could of caused a accident, the driver must of not looked at his side mirror to pull out and was more interested to go of shift, or he had a blind spot and could not see me, but when I was along the side of him going past he would of by then and should of stop, I could not as I was on the wrong side of the road and traffic by hind me.
I wait for your reply.
Please contact me on [email address redacted]Yours Sincerly
Mr CCapel
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Thank you for contacting the Council about this matter.
Your email will be logged and allocated to the relevant Officer for action.
Thank you.
Customer Services
Shepway District Council
Email Details:
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Subject: Bus pulling out along side of me and not stopping
Email Received: 28/01/2012 14:10:09 -
Dear Mr Capel
Thank you for your email regarding nearly being hit by a bus in Cheriton High Street.
I have forwarded your email to the Transport Integration department, in order that they can respond to your enquiry.
For further information regarding this enquiry please contact the department directly, their contact details are [email address].
Kind Regards,
Sarah
Customer service Advisor
Kent County Council Highways & Transportation
Telephone: 08458 247 800
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Dear Mr Capel
Thank you for your email.
With regards to your query I would need to refer you to The Police to
report a road safety issue and possible the Health and Safety Executive.
I have spoken with our Environmental Health Department who have also
suggested you contact the bus company direct to make a report of what
happened.
The contact details you would need are:
Police Station: 01622 690690.
Health and Safety Executive: 0845 300 9923.
Stagecoach: 0870 243 3711.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance.
Yours Sincerely
Jessica Davies
Customer Services Officer
Customer Contact
T: 01303 858660
Shepway District Council
Civic Centre, Castle Hill Avenue, Folkestone, Kent, CT20 2QY
Telephone: (Switchboard) 01303 853000
E-mail: [email address]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mr C.Capel [mailto:[Improve local bus drivers driving in Shepway email]]
Sent: 28 January 2012 14:10
To: Street.Scene
Subject: Bus pulling out along side of me and not stopping
Dear Shepway District Council,
At 13.10 hours on 28th January 2012, I came out of Ahsley Avenue on
to Cheriton High Street going towards army camp way, as I was
starting to go past a empty bus tail end, the bus pulled off from
the bus stop, I was by then along the middle of the bus and I had
to go over the other side of the road and increase speed to get
past to avoid the bus hitting my car. The bus did not stop and by
then I manage to get past and get back on to the correct side of
the road. Lucky for me the traffice was clear due to a ambulance
going through the traffic lights at the COOP cross roads and the
traffic stopped to let the ambulance through, this happend in
seconds. The bus driver did not stop at all and he turned in to
Sommer set road Cheriton. I was unable to get details as by then
the traffic got busy. I would like this to be investigated, this
could of caused a accident, the driver must of not looked at his
side mirror to pull out and was more interested to go of shift, or
he had a blind spot and could not see me, but when I was along the
side of him going past he would of by then and should of stop, I
could not as I was on the wrong side of the road and traffic by
hind me. I wait for your reply. Please contact me on
[email address]
Yours Sincerly
Mr CCapel
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Dear Mr Capel
I believe the service you are referring to from your description is
either the 72 or 73 service, as I believe they both use Somerset Road.
Unfortunately there is not much I can do as these are both commercial
operations run by Stagecoach. I have forwarded your email to Stagecoach
at Folkestone so that they may respond to you directly.
Kind Regards
Steven Benjamin
Public Transport Planner (East Kent)
Transport Integration
Gibson Drive, Kings Hill,
West Malling,
Kent.
ME19 4QG
Tel: 01622 605085
Int: 5085
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Myf Nixon commented
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17:24 30 Jan 2012
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Hello Chris,
FixMyTransport admin here. I've removed your personal email address from this public web page. As it happens, there is no need to include it, since any reply comes directly into your email inbox, as you'll have seen.Also, I've forwarded your message on to Stagecoach. The reason for it being sent to the council is that you reported the incident as happening at a bus stop (responsibility of the council) rather than on the route (bus company). I can quite understand why, and we're working on making this distinction clearer.
I hope Stagecoach reply soon with a decent response, and I'd also advise you to take up the suggestion of making a report to the police.
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Good morning,
Your email has been passed to the operations manager who will
respond in due course.
Thank you for Contacting Stagecoach bus company.
Kind regards
Chris
Customer Service Team
08456 00 22 99
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/eastkent
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/eastsussex
To view our Code of Practice please follow this link:
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/codeofpract...
Stagecoach in East Kent & East Sussex, Bus Station, St Georges
Lane, Canterbury, CT1 2SY
Registered Office: East Kent Road Car Co Ltd, Daw Bank,
Stockport, Cheshire SK3 0DU
(Registered in England & Wales No144585)
"Mr C.Capel" To [Stagecoach in East Kent problem reporting email]
<[Improve local bus drivers driving in Shepway email]> cc
Subject Bus pulling out along side of me and
30/01/2012 17:22 not stopping
Dear Stagecoach in East Kent,
At 13.10 hours on 28th January 2012, I came out of Ahsley
Avenue on
to Cheriton High Street going towards army camp way, as I
was
starting to go past a empty bus tail end, the bus pulled off
from
the bus stop, I was by then along the middle of the bus and
I had
to go over the other side of the road and increase speed to
get
past to avoid the bus hitting my car. The bus did not stop
and by
then I manage to get past and get back on to the correct
side of
the road. Lucky for me the traffice was clear due to a
ambulance
going through the traffic lights at the COOP cross roads and
the
traffic stopped to let the ambulance through, this happend
in
seconds. The bus driver did not stop at all and he turned in
to
Sommer set road Cheriton. I was unable to get details as by
then
the traffic got busy. I would like this to be investigated,
this
could of caused a accident, the driver must of not looked at
his
side mirror to pull out and was more interested to go of
shift, or
he had a blind spot and could not see me, but when I was
along the
side of him going past he would of by then and should of
stop, I
could not as I was on the wrong side of the road and traffic
by
hind me. I wait for your reply. Please contact me on [email
address
redacted]
Yours Sincerly
Mr CCapel
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Dear Mr Capel
I write further to your recent e-mail concerning an incident
that occured on Cheriton High Street on 28th January 2012. I am
very sorry that you have found cause to complain.
I am always most concerned to receive reports of poor driving
standards. Clearly the safety of our passengers and other road
users is our first concern and must not be compromised at any
time. I have now had the chance to investigate this matter and
from the information you have provided, I have identified the
driver of the bus in question and you may rest assured that he
will be required to account for his actions. I have also
requested the CCTV footage from the bus which may help my
enquiry.
Please accept my most sincere apology for this regrettable
incident and my thanks for taking the time to bring the matter
to my attention.
Yours sincerely,
Danny Millis
Operations Manager
Stagecoach East Kent and East Sussex
Bus Station
Bouverie Square
Folkestone
Kent
CT20 1BA
Tel : 01303 212222
Fax : 01303 212220
To view our Code of Practice please follow this link:
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/codeofpract...
Registered Office - East Kent Road Car Co Ltd
Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire SK3 0DU
(Registered In England and Wales No. 144585)
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Group.
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show quoted sections - 11 Mr C.Capel commented close 17:25 24 Mar 2012 #
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I made a complaint about a bus driver driving off and making me drive on the other side of the road in Cheriton High Street, I was coming out of Ashley Avenue.
I have had no feed back or a appolige and out come of my complaint.
This could of caused a serious accident.
Please feed information back.
Thanks
- 13 Mr C.Capel added an update close 17:30 24 Mar 2012 #
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I made a complaint to Stage coach about a bus driver driving off and forceing me to drive on the opposite side of the road as I come out of Ashley Avenue.
Stage coach has explained they will look in to this?
I have had no feed back at all and we are now at the end of March, they said they will look at the cctv camera in the vehicle.
This could of caused a serious accident.
Please look in to this as you give them a licence to drive these vehciles.
Thanks
- 15 Mr C.Capel added an update close 17:34 24 Mar 2012 #
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Thank you for contacting the Council about this matter.
Your email will be logged and allocated to the relevant Officer for action.
Thank you.
Customer Services
Shepway District Council
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Subject: 28th January 2012 Cheriton High Street bus (Stage Coach)
Email Received: 24/03/2012 17:34:39 -
Dear Mr Capel,
I write further to your recent e-mail concerning an incident
that occurred in Cheriton High Street on 28th January 2012.
I have checked my records and I can confirm that I sent you an
e-mail in this regard on 31st January 2012 to
[Improve local bus drivers driving in Shepway email]. I can further confirm
that the driver involved was identified and dealt with in line
with our company disciplinary process on 9th February 2012.
I have no hesitation in offering you my most sincere apology for
this regrettable incident and my thanks for taking the time to
bring the matter to my attention.
In the circumstances, I would be most grateful if you could
confirm your receipt of this e-mail so that I can satisfy myself
that this matter is now closed.
Yours sincerely,
Danny Millis
Operations Manager
Stagecoach East Kent and East Sussex
Bus Station
Bouverie Square
Folkestone
Kent
CT20 1BA
Tel : 01303 212222
Fax : 01303 212220
To view our Code of Practice please follow this link:
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/codeofpract...
Registered Office - East Kent Road Car Co Ltd
Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire SK3 0DU
(Registered In England and Wales No. 144585)
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential
and
intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which
they are addressed.
The information, attachments and opinions contained in this
email
are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent
those
of Stagecoach UK Bus Division or any member of the Stagecoach
Group.
All messages are scanned for viruses, but we cannot accept
liability
for any viruses that may be transmitted in or with this email.
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Peter Dixon commented
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22:37 26 Mar 2012
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Hello Mr Capel
FixMyTransport volunteer here
To confirm that the matter is closed, please come back to message 17 on the FixMyTransport page and hit the blue button at the bottom of this message marked REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE BY EMAIL.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69648850@N03/6790016882/
Kind regards
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Mr C.Capel commented
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17:13 27 Mar 2012
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Dear Danny Millis
Thank you for the reply back, I did not recive the last email I am sure.
I am not one for getting people in to trouble, is there any way we can prevent this from happning again, I do feel strongley that the bus stops where they are, are to close to Ashley Avenue for allowing cars comeing out.
Would you be able to ask the local council to move the bus stop further down, or further up, this will prevent other drivers from having incidents.
Once again thank you for your help and I wait for your reply back.
Yours sincerly
Mr C.Capel
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Dear Mr Capel
Although the siting of bus stops is a local authority
responsibility, we do have the opportunity to offer comment to
them. The siting of new stops is subject to certain health &
safety criteria but I believe that the one to which you refer
has been in situ for many years.
You may rest assured however, that I will pass your comments on
to those responsible at my next earliest opportunity.
Yours sincerely,
Danny Millis
Operations Manager
Stagecoach East Kent and East Sussex
Bus Station
Bouverie Square
Folkestone
Kent
CT20 1BA
Tel : 01303 212222
Fax : 01303 212220
To view our Code of Practice please follow this link:
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/codeofpract...
Registered Office - East Kent Road Car Co Ltd
Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire SK3 0DU
(Registered In England and Wales No. 144585)
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential
and
intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which
they are addressed.
The information, attachments and opinions contained in this
email
are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent
those
of Stagecoach UK Bus Division or any member of the Stagecoach
Group.
All messages are scanned for viruses, but we cannot accept
liability
for any viruses that may be transmitted in or with this email.
If you have received this email in error please notify the IT
department at [email address].
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Mr C.Capel added an update
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14:23 30 Mar 2012
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Dear Danny Millis
I agree this has been in situ for some years, but this doe's not mean it is safe now.
All near or actuall incidents should be assessed by risk assessments and esculated and put on a risk registra and reported to higher authoritesif class as a high risk.
Also this does not mean the incidents have been reported to you in the past.
Your vehicles have got longer, the traffic for this area has increased, these are just some of the environment changes since the bus stop was put in place for this area.
I would be greatful for you to investigate with the council if required, the council should be informed, due to a member of public incident on the highway.
I wait for your reply back.
Yours sincerly
Mr CCapel
- 22 Mr C.Capel commented and marked the problem as fixed. close 18:32 06 May 2012 #