“Please help me persuade Southern to install wifi on its trains ” – Tom Coady

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Tom Coady

Your predecessor offered onboard wifi.
Your airborne competition also offer this facility quite routinely now.
Why not you too?

Problem History

  • 1 Tom Coady reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 10:42 25 Sep 2012
  • 2 Tom Coady wrote to Southern close 10:42 25 Sep 2012

    Here is the letter that Tom Coady wrote.

    Wifi

    Your predecessor offered wifi. Why not you too?

  • 3 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Tom Coady close 10:23 26 Sep 2012
    Dear Sir/Madam,
    Thank you for your email. Your reference number is
    [66591-1348566347]

    We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. We aim to
    respond in full to your enquiry within 7 days. Please note that
    if you have sent us a Delay Repay claim, our team will aim to
    respond within 28 days. If you have sent us a Refund claim, our
    team will aim to respond within 10 days.

    Kind Regards,
    Southern Customer Services

    Reminder of your message:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    Dear Southern,

    Your predecessor offered wifi. Why not you too?

    ------------------

    Here is some information from FixMyTransport about the location
    of
    this issue:

    Location name: Train route between Brighton and London Victoria

    ----------

    To view a map of the precise location of this problem, or to
    provide an update on the problem, please visit the following
    link:

    http://www.fixmytransport.com/campaigns/...

    [ PLEASE NOTE: Your replies to this problem report will be sent
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    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by NetIQ
    MailMarshal.

    Southern Railway Ltd is registered in England No. 06574965.
    Registered office: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle Upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed here http://www.southernrailway.com/emaildisc...

    Southern is the trading name of Southern Railway Ltd.
    Registered in England under number: 06574965
    Registered offices: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE.

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed at: [1]www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer

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  • 4 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Tom Coady close 08:53 04 Oct 2012
    Dear Mr Coady

    Thank you for your email.

    There are no current plans to introduce this facility on our
    services. Southern has piloted Wi-Fi internet access in the past
    on some of our mainline trains; however our network has long
    tunnels and deep cuttings which made the signal extremely
    unreliable causing arguably more frustration to than not having
    a facility in the first place. We are aware that some of our
    customers would value Wi-Fi access but in a survey which
    Southern carried out; it was not identified as a key priority.
    In conclusion there are no plans to fit Wi-Fi facilities on our
    trains in the present franchise.

    If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please
    contact our Customer Service team directly at
    [1][Southern problem reporting email], by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or
    in writing to:
    Southern Customer Services
    PO Box 3021
    Bristol
    BS2 2BS
    quoting ticket number [66591-1348566347] on all communication.

    For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter
    @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

    Kind regards

    Timothy Fife-Schaw
    Southern Customer Services

    Your message :

    Dear Southern,

    Your predecessor offered wifi. Why not you too?

    ------------------

    Here is some information from FixMyTransport about the location
    of
    this issue:

    Location name: Train route between Brighton and London Victoria

    ----------

    To view a map of the precise location of this problem, or to
    provide an update on the problem, please visit the following
    link:

    http://www.fixmytransport.com/campaigns/...

    [ PLEASE NOTE: Your replies to this problem report will be sent
    to
    Tom Coady and will be published online. This message was sent
    via
    FixMyTransport.com - a not-for-profit service dedicated to
    helping
    people get public transport problems resolved. If there is a
    more
    appropriate email address for messages about this type of
    problem,
    please let us know by visiting
    . This will help improve
    the service for people travelling. We also welcome any other
    feedback you may have. ]

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by NetIQ
    MailMarshal.

    Southern Railway Ltd is registered in England No. 06574965.
    Registered office: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle Upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed here http://www.southernrailway.com/emaildisc...

    Southern is the trading name of Southern Railway Ltd.
    Registered in England under number: 06574965
    Registered offices: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE.

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed at: [2]www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer

    References

    Visible links
    1. mailto:[Southern problem reporting email]
    2. file:///tmp/www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer
  • 5 Tom Coady added an update close 09:29 04 Oct 2012

    Thank you for your reply. I agree that a poor service is potentially worse than none at all, but I disagree with your conclusions regarding the viability of decent provision, and challenges you suggest that are unique to this route.

    I think you will find the answer lies in so called 'leaky feeder' technology which is a proven solution to providing signals in long tunnels or corridors.

  • 6 Tom Coady commented close 10:44 06 Nov 2012

    It would appear Southern have a policy of providing a single answer to any complaint, and however inadequate that answer might be, of refusing to enter in to any further dialogue on the subject. It is with some regret that I feel the only option is to give up at this point as I appear to be having a conversation with the proverbial brick wall.

  • 7 Paul Hollinghurst commented close 23:38 06 Nov 2012

    Tom,
    Your message posted here at 09:29 on 4th October was only put on this webpage and was not sent to Southern so it is unlikely they saw it. If you want to contact them again you will need to click on the Blue 'Reply to this message by email' at the end of their reply at 08:53 on 4th October.
    I hope this helps.
    Paul (FixMyTransport Volunteer)

    anorak
    admin
  • 8 Tom Coady wrote to Southern Railways Customer Services close 10:08 07 Nov 2012

    Thank you for your reply. I agree that a poor service is potentially worse than none at all, but I disagree with your conclusions regarding the viability of decent provision, and challenges you suggest that are unique to this route.

    I think you will find the answer lies in so called 'leaky feeder' technology which is a proven solution to providing signals in long tunnels or corridors.

    best wishes, Tom
    -----Original Message-----

    Dear Mr Coady

    Thank you for your email.

    There are no current plans to introduce this facility on our
    services. Southern has piloted Wi-Fi internet access in the past
    on some of our mainline trains; however our network has long
    tunnels and deep cuttings which made the signal extremely
    unreliable causing arguably more frustration to than not having
    a facility in the first place. We are aware that some of our
    customers would value Wi-Fi access but in a survey which
    Southern carried out; it was not identified as a key priority.
    In conclusion there are no plans to fit Wi-Fi facilities on our
    trains in the present franchise.

    If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please
    contact our Customer Service team directly at
    [1][Southern problem reporting email], by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or
    in writing to:
    Southern Customer Services
    PO Box 3021
    Bristol
    BS2 2BS
    quoting ticket number [66591-1348566347] on all communication.

    For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter
    @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

    Kind regards

    Timothy Fife-Schaw
    Southern Customer Services

    Your message :

    Dear Southern,

    Your predecessor offered wifi. Why not you too?

    ------------------

    Here is some information from FixMyTransport about the location
    of
    this issue:

    Location name: Train route between Brighton and London Victoria

    ----------

    To view a map of the precise location of this problem, or to
    provide an update on the problem, please visit the following
    link:

    http://www.fixmytransport.com/campaigns/2333

    [ PLEASE NOTE: Your replies to this problem report will be sent
    to
    Tom Coady and will be published online. This message was sent
    via
    FixMyTransport.com - a not-for-profit service dedicated to
    helping
    people get public transport problems resolved. If there is a
    more
    appropriate email address for messages about this type of
    problem,
    please let us know by visiting
    . This will help improve
    the service for people travelling. We also welcome any other
    feedback you may have. ]

     

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by NetIQ
    MailMarshal.

    Southern Railway Ltd is registered in England No. 06574965.
    Registered office: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle Upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed here http://www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer

    Southern is the trading name of Southern Railway Ltd.
    Registered in England under number: 06574965
    Registered offices: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE.

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed at: [2]www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer

    References

    Visible links
    1. mailto:[Southern problem reporting email]
    2. file:///tmp/www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer

  • 9 Tom Coady added an update close 10:08 07 Nov 2012

    Thanks Paul
    I have replied to Southern now.

  • 10 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Tom Coady close 10:09 07 Nov 2012
    Dear Sir/Madam,
    Thank you for your email. Your reference number is
    [66591-1348566347]

    We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. <br>Thank you
    for your email. <BR> We appreciate you taking the time to
    contact us. We have recently received a large number of
    enquiries so we are taking longer than normal to respond,
    however we’ll do our best to do so as quickly as possible.
    Please note that if you have sent us a Delay Repay claim, our
    team will aim to respond within 28 days. If you have sent us a
    Refund claim, our team will aim to respond within 10 days. From
    22 October, Southern will be operating a revised cycle policy.
    Restrictions apply to the carriage of non folding bikes from
    07:00 – 10:00 and 16:00 – 19:00 Monday to Friday. For details
    please check southernrailway.com/cyclepolicy

    Kind Regards,
    Southern Customer Services

    Reminder of your message:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    Thank you for your reply. I agree that a poor service is
    potentially worse than none at all, but I disagree with your
    conclusions regarding the viability of decent provision, and
    challenges you suggest that are unique to this route.

    I think you will find the answer lies in so called 'leaky
    feeder' technology which is a proven solution to providing
    signals in long tunnels or corridors.

    best wishes, Tom

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  • 11 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Tom Coady close 11:34 03 Dec 2012
    Dear Mr Coady

    Thank you for your email dated 07 November 2012.  Please accept
    my apologies for the delay in our response.

    We aim to provide excellent service at all times and your
    feedback is greatly appreciated.  I have passed on your comments
    to the relevant team and I hope that your feedback will go a
    long way in helping us to make improvements.

    If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please
    contact our Customer Service team directly at
    [1][Southern problem reporting email], by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or
    in writing to:
    Southern Customer Services
    PO Box 3021
    Bristol
    BS2 2BS
    quoting ticket number [66591-1348566347] on all communication.

    For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter
    @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

    Kind regards

    Kerry Devonald
    Southern Customer Services

    Your message :

    Thank you for your reply. I agree that a poor service is
    potentially worse than none at all, but I disagree with your
    conclusions regarding the viability of decent provision, and
    challenges you suggest that are unique to this route.

    I think you will find the answer lies in so called 'leaky
    feeder' technology which is a proven solution to providing
    signals in long tunnels or corridors.

    best wishes, Tom

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  • 12 Tom Coady wrote to Southern Railways Customer Services close 11:47 03 Dec 2012

    Firstly, if @southernrailUK considers it acceptable to answer @fixmytransport with form letters that completely ignore the matter raised, why does it take so long for their machine to react.

    Secondly I am concerned that @southernrailUK is seeking to continue this dialogue outside the auspices of @fixmytransport by inviting various options for direct contact.

    Not only does this undermine the existence of @fixmytransport but fails to recognise the reason issues are raised via this channel.
    -----Original Message-----

    Dear Mr Coady

    Thank you for your email dated 07 November 2012.  Please accept
    my apologies for the delay in our response.

    We aim to provide excellent service at all times and your
    feedback is greatly appreciated.  I have passed on your comments
    to the relevant team and I hope that your feedback will go a
    long way in helping us to make improvements.

    If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please
    contact our Customer Service team directly at
    [1][Southern problem reporting email], by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or
    in writing to:
    Southern Customer Services
    PO Box 3021
    Bristol
    BS2 2BS
    quoting ticket number [66591-1348566347] on all communication.

    For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter
    @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

    Kind regards

    Kerry Devonald
    Southern Customer Services

    Your message :

    Thank you for your reply. I agree that a poor service is
    potentially worse than none at all, but I disagree with your
    conclusions regarding the viability of decent provision, and
    challenges you suggest that are unique to this route.

    I think you will find the answer lies in so called 'leaky
    feeder' technology which is a proven solution to providing
    signals in long tunnels or corridors.

    best wishes, Tom

  • 13 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Tom Coady close 11:48 03 Dec 2012
    Dear Sir/Madam,
    Thank you for your email. Your reference number is
    [66591-1348566347]

    We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. We have
    recently received a large number of enquiries so we are taking
    longer than normal to respond, however we’ll do our best to do
    so as quickly as possible. Please note that if you have sent us
    a Delay Repay claim, our team will aim to respond within 28
    days. If you have sent us a Refund claim, our team will aim to
    respond within 10 days. From 22 October, Southern will be
    operating a revised cycle policy. Restrictions apply to the
    carriage of non folding bikes from 07:00 – 10:00 and 16:00 –
    19:00 Monday to Friday. For details please check
    southernrailway.com/cyclepolicy

    Kind Regards,
    Southern Customer Services

    Reminder of your message:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    Firstly, if @southernrailUK considers it acceptable to answer
    @fixmytransport with form letters that completely ignore the
    matter raised, why does it take so long for their machine to
    react.

    Secondly I am concerned that @southernrailUK is seeking to
    continue this dialogue outside the auspices of @fixmytransport
    by inviting various options for direct contact.

    Not only does this undermine the existence of @fixmytransport
    but fails to recognise the reason issues are raised via this
    channel.

    show quoted sections
  • 14 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Tom Coady close 11:44 15 Dec 2012
    Dear Mr Coady

    Thank you for contacting us on 03 December 2012

    Please accept my apologies for the delay in our response.

    I have passed on your comments to the relevant team, you will be
    contacted directly.

    If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please
    contact our Customer Service team directly at
    [1][Southern problem reporting email], by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or
    in writing to:
    Southern Customer Services
    PO Box 3021
    Bristol
    BS2 2BS
    quoting ticket number [66591-1348566347] on all communication.

    For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter
    @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

    Kind regards

    Pauline Williams
    Southern Customer Services

    Your message :

    Firstly, if @southernrailUK considers it acceptable to answer
    @fixmytransport with form letters that completely ignore the
    matter raised, why does it take so long for their machine to
    react.

    Secondly I am concerned that @southernrailUK is seeking to
    continue this dialogue outside the auspices of @fixmytransport
    by inviting various options for direct contact.

    Not only does this undermine the existence of @fixmytransport
    but fails to recognise the reason issues are raised via this
    channel.

    show quoted sections
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