“Please help me persuade Southern to make Gatwick Airport Station into an International Gateway fit for its status” – Gary Hudson

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Gary Hudson

After arriving off a 2 hour delayed flight, my simple purchase of a single ticket Gatwick to Three Bridges should have been the least problematic thing on my mind. Unfortunately due many delays Gatwick station was inundated with customers, with a very lengthy queue for the 2 ticket booths open. I used one of the many machines on the concourse, of which 6 machines out of 14 were unusable. I placed my £10 note into the machine, ticket came out Nbr 67228 but no change. This was now 2345 and one attendant checking tickets going onto the station was the only staff member around. I didn't wish to leave the machine and did advise many others attempting to use it out of order, but after 15 minutes when obvious no other attendant will materialise I left for the counter, stood in the queue, explained my predicament when I got to the counter, to receive shrug of shoulder ' I know nothing attitude'. As I work in travel I demanded the duty manager show, which he did, Paul, after some 20 minutes wait (now past midnight) only to be told need to fill out a form. No forms to be had, so on scrap paper he took my details, I told him him for an international gatweway it was a disgrace, to which he agreed, and proceeded to tell me even though I paid cash I would receive an email or phone call from the powers that be, due to the super machines in the station, of which 6 were not working, that a refund would be forthcoming. I suggested a/ this may never happen, or b/ will but when I am in a coffin - looks like both of these could be right, as no correspondence whatsoever yet. It may be a small sum, just £7.90 change but for a £2.10 ticket it is a scam, of which in most places you would be held liable, criminally for. Therefore I call on the rail station manager at Gatwick to sort this matter out urgently, or in my capcaity of working in the industry will make this public knowledge. Principles are what make people angry, not the amount of loss, but the fact that it can happen and not be rectified at an international gateway is inexcusable

Problem History

  • 1 Gary Hudson reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 13:48 29 Oct 2012
  • 2 Gary Hudson wrote to Southern close 13:48 29 Oct 2012

    Here is the letter that Gary Hudson wrote.

    Unbelievable poor service for International Gateway

    After arriving off a 2 hour delayed flight, my simple purchase of a single ticket Gatwick to Three Bridges should have been the least problematic thing on my mind. Unfortunately due many delays Gatwick station was inundated with customers, with a very lengthy queue for the 2 ticket booths open. I used one of the many machines on the concourse, of which 6 machines out of 14 were unusable. I placed my £10 note into the machine, ticket came out Nbr 67228 but no change. This was now 2345 and one attendant checking tickets going onto the station was the only staff member around. I didn't wish to leave the machine and did advise many others attempting to use it out of order, but after 15 minutes when obvious no other attendant will materialise I left for the counter, stood in the queue, explained my predicament when I got to the counter, to receive shrug of shoulder ' I know nothing attitude'. As I work in travel I demanded the duty manager show, which he did, Paul, after some 20 minutes wait (now past midnight) only to be told need to fill out a form. No forms to be had, so on scrap paper he took my details, I told him him for an international gatweway it was a disgrace, to which he agreed, and proceeded to tell me even though I paid cash I would receive an email or phone call from the powers that be, due to the super machines in the station, of which 6 were not working, that a refund would be forthcoming. I suggested a/ this may never happen, or b/ will but when I am in a coffin - looks like both of these could be right, as no correspondence whatsoever yet. It may be a small sum, just £7.90 change but for a £2.10 ticket it is a scam, of which in most places you would be held liable, criminally for. Therefore I call on the rail station manager at Gatwick to sort this matter out urgently, or in my capcaity of working in the industry will make this public knowledge. Principles are what make people angry, not the amount of loss, but the fact that it can happen and not be rectified at an international gateway is inexcusable

  • 3 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Gary Hudson close 13:51 29 Oct 2012
    Dear Sir/Madam,
    Thank you for your email. Your reference number is
    [73803-1351518697]

    We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. <br>Thank you
    for your email. <BR> We appreciate you taking the time to
    contact us. We have recently received a large number of
    enquiries so we are taking longer than normal to respond,
    however we’ll do our best to do so as quickly as possible.
    Please note that if you have sent us a Delay Repay claim, our
    team will aim to respond within 28 days. If you have sent us a
    Refund claim, our team will aim to respond within 10 days. From
    22 October, Southern will be operating a revised cycle policy.
    Restrictions apply to the carriage of non folding bikes from
    07:00 – 10:00 and 16:00 – 19:00 Monday to Friday. For details
    please check southernrailway.com/cyclepolicy

    Kind Regards,
    Southern Customer Services

    Reminder of your message:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    Dear Southern,

    After arriving off a 2 hour delayed flight, my simple purchase
    of a
    single ticket Gatwick to Three Bridges should have been the
    least
    problematic thing on my mind. Unfortunately due many delays
    Gatwick
    station was inundated with customers, with a very lengthy queue
    for
    the 2 ticket booths open. I used one of the many machines on the
    concourse, of which 6 machines out of 14 were unusable. I placed
    my
    £10 note into the machine, ticket came out Nbr 67228 but no
    change.
    This was now 2345 and one attendant checking tickets going onto
    the
    station was the only staff member around. I didn't wish to leave
    the machine and did advise many others attempting to use it out
    of
    order, but after 15 minutes when obvious no other attendant will
    materialise I left for the counter, stood in the queue,
    explained
    my predicament when I got to the counter, to receive shrug of
    shoulder ' I know nothing attitude'. As I work in travel I
    demanded
    the duty manager show, which he did, Paul, after some 20 minutes
    wait (now past midnight) only to be told need to fill out a
    form.
    No forms to be had, so on scrap paper he took my details, I told
    him him for an international gatweway it was a disgrace, to
    which
    he agreed, and proceeded to tell me even though I paid cash I
    would
    receive an email or phone call from the powers that be, due to
    the
    super machines in the station, of which 6 were not working, that
    a
    refund would be forthcoming. I suggested a/ this may never
    happen,
    or b/ will but when I am in a coffin - looks like both of these
    could be right, as no correspondence whatsoever yet. It may be a
    small sum, just £7.90 change but for a £2.10 ticket it is a
    scam,
    of which in most places you would be held liable, criminally
    for.
    Therefore I call on the rail station manager at Gatwick to sort
    this matter out urgently, or in my capcaity of working in the
    industry will make this public knowledge. Principles are what
    make
    people angry, not the amount of loss, but the fact that it can
    happen and not be rectified at an international gateway is
    inexcusable

    ------------------

    Here is some information from FixMyTransport about the location
    of
    this issue:

    Location name: Gatwick Airport Rail Station

    Area: Gatwick Airport

    Easting: 528700.0

    Northing: 141300.0

    ----------

    To view a map of the precise location of this problem, or to
    provide an update on the problem, please visit the following
    link:

    http://www.fixmytransport.com/campaigns/...

    [ PLEASE NOTE: Your replies to this problem report will be sent
    to
    Gary Hudson and will be published online. This message was sent
    via
    FixMyTransport.com - a not-for-profit service dedicated to
    helping
    people get public transport problems resolved. If there is a
    more
    appropriate email address for messages about this type of
    problem,
    please let us know by visiting
    . This will help improve
    the service for people travelling. We also welcome any other
    feedback you may have. ]

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

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    Registered office: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle Upon
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  • 4 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Gary Hudson close 06:51 23 Nov 2012
    Dear Mr Hudson

    Thank you for contacting us on 29 October 2012. Please accept my
    apologies for the delay in our response.

    I am very sorry to hear about the inconvenience you encountered
    when attempting to purchase a ticket at Gatwick Airport. 

    have passed on your observations regarding the ticket machine
    at Gatwick Airport station to the appropriate departments so
    that they are aware of these issues.

    I completely understand the importance of keeping such
    facilities functional and apologise for any frustration that
    this situation may have caused.

    We can escalate this issue in order to look in to the
    transactions of the machine in question but we will need to have
    the date that the incident occurred in order to do this. We will
    then be able to find if that particular machine had money money
    in it at the end of the night. Please respond with this
    information so that we can investigate.

    This may take up for 4 weeks to receive a response from this
    department due to the nature of their heavy workload so,
    alternatively, in order to offer you a quicker resolve we can
    grant you £10.00 National Rail vouchers which can be used with
    any UK based train operator. If you would like to accept the
    rail vouchers please respond with an address you would like us
    to dispatch them to.

    Thank you for taking the time to write to us and bring your
    experience to our attention. I hope that this feedback can go a
    long way to helping us improve the service you use and your
    future travel is pleasant and incident free.

    If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please
    contact our Customer Service team directly at
    [1][Southern problem reporting email], by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or
    in writing to:
    Southern Customer Services
    PO Box 3021
    Bristol
    BS2 2BS
    quoting ticket number [73803-1351518697] on all communication.

    For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter
    @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

    Kind regards

    Naomi Tucker
    Southern Customer Services

    Your message :

    Dear Southern,

    After arriving off a 2 hour delayed flight, my simple purchase
    of a
    single ticket Gatwick to Three Bridges should have been the
    least
    problematic thing on my mind. Unfortunately due many delays
    Gatwick
    station was inundated with customers, with a very lengthy queue
    for
    the 2 ticket booths open. I used one of the many machines on the
    concourse, of which 6 machines out of 14 were unusable. I placed
    my
    £10 note into the machine, ticket came out Nbr 67228 but no
    change.
    This was now 2345 and one attendant checking tickets going onto
    the
    station was the only staff member around. I didn't wish to leave
    the machine and did advise many others attempting to use it out
    of
    order, but after 15 minutes when obvious no other attendant will
    materialise I left for the counter, stood in the queue,
    explained
    my predicament when I got to the counter, to receive shrug of
    shoulder ' I know nothing attitude'. As I work in travel I
    demanded
    the duty manager show, which he did, Paul, after some 20 minutes
    wait (now past midnight) only to be told need to fill out a
    form.
    No forms to be had, so on scrap paper he took my details, I told
    him him for an international gatweway it was a disgrace, to
    which
    he agreed, and proceeded to tell me even though I paid cash I
    would
    receive an email or phone call from the powers that be, due to
    the
    super machines in the station, of which 6 were not working, that
    a
    refund would be forthcoming. I suggested a/ this may never
    happen,
    or b/ will but when I am in a coffin - looks like both of these
    could be right, as no correspondence whatsoever yet. It may be a
    small sum, just £7.90 change but for a £2.10 ticket it is a
    scam,
    of which in most places you would be held liable, criminally
    for.
    Therefore I call on the rail station manager at Gatwick to sort
    this matter out urgently, or in my capcaity of working in the
    industry will make this public knowledge. Principles are what
    make
    people angry, not the amount of loss, but the fact that it can
    happen and not be rectified at an international gateway is
    inexcusable

    ------------------

    Here is some information from FixMyTransport about the location
    of
    this issue:

    Location name: Gatwick Airport Rail Station

    Area: Gatwick Airport

    Easting: 528700.0

    Northing: 141300.0

    ----------

    To view a map of the precise location of this problem, or to
    provide an update on the problem, please visit the following
    link:

    http://www.fixmytransport.com/campaigns/...

    [ PLEASE NOTE: Your replies to this problem report will be sent
    to
    Gary Hudson and will be published online. This message was sent
    via
    FixMyTransport.com - a not-for-profit service dedicated to
    helping
    people get public transport problems resolved. If there is a
    more
    appropriate email address for messages about this type of
    problem,
    please let us know by visiting
    . This will help improve
    the service for people travelling. We also welcome any other
    feedback you may have. ]

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by NetIQ
    MailMarshal.

    Southern Railway Ltd is registered in England No. 06574965.
    Registered office: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle Upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed here http://www.southernrailway.com/emaildisc...

    Southern is the trading name of Southern Railway Ltd.
    Registered in England under number: 06574965
    Registered offices: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE.

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed at: [2]www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer

    References

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  • 5 Gary Hudson wrote to Southern Railways Customer Services close 09:15 23 Nov 2012

    Good morning Naomi

    To be honest wasn't expecting any reply so well done for that, even though
    a later reply it is a reply which is more than some others would have done

    I did give all the information to the duty manager on the day but as so long ago now and we are talking change of £8.90, to expedite the process the £10 vouchers would be appreciated. Therefore please send the offered couchers to

    [address redacted from public site]

    It is appreciated and I will advise my travel colleagues that it may take time but you do actually investigate raised issues

    Have a good weekend

    Kind regards
    Gary

    -----Original Message-----

    Dear Mr Hudson

    Thank you for contacting us on 29 October 2012. Please accept my
    apologies for the delay in our response.

    I am very sorry to hear about the inconvenience you encountered
    when attempting to purchase a ticket at Gatwick Airport. 

    have passed on your observations regarding the ticket machine
    at Gatwick Airport station to the appropriate departments so
    that they are aware of these issues.

    I completely understand the importance of keeping such
    facilities functional and apologise for any frustration that
    this situation may have caused.

    We can escalate this issue in order to look in to the
    transactions of the machine in question but we will need to have
    the date that the incident occurred in order to do this. We will
    then be able to find if that particular machine had money money
    in it at the end of the night. Please respond with this
    information so that we can investigate.

    This may take up for 4 weeks to receive a response from this
    department due to the nature of their heavy workload so,
    alternatively, in order to offer you a quicker resolve we can
    grant you £10.00 National Rail vouchers which can be used with
    any UK based train operator. If you would like to accept the
    rail vouchers please respond with an address you would like us
    to dispatch them to.

    Thank you for taking the time to write to us and bring your
    experience to our attention. I hope that this feedback can go a
    long way to helping us improve the service you use and your
    future travel is pleasant and incident free.

    If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please
    contact our Customer Service team directly at
    [1][Southern problem reporting email], by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or
    in writing to:
    Southern Customer Services
    PO Box 3021
    Bristol
    BS2 2BS
    quoting ticket number [73803-1351518697] on all communication.

    For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter
    @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

    Kind regards

    Naomi Tucker
    Southern Customer Services

    Your message :

    Dear Southern,

    After arriving off a 2 hour delayed flight, my simple purchase
    of a
    single ticket Gatwick to Three Bridges should have been the
    least
    problematic thing on my mind. Unfortunately due many delays
    Gatwick
    station was inundated with customers, with a very lengthy queue
    for
    the 2 ticket booths open. I used one of the many machines on the
    concourse, of which 6 machines out of 14 were unusable. I placed
    my
    £10 note into the machine, ticket came out Nbr 67228 but no
    change.
    This was now 2345 and one attendant checking tickets going onto
    the
    station was the only staff member around. I didn't wish to leave
    the machine and did advise many others attempting to use it out
    of
    order, but after 15 minutes when obvious no other attendant will
    materialise I left for the counter, stood in the queue,
    explained
    my predicament when I got to the counter, to receive shrug of
    shoulder ' I know nothing attitude'. As I work in travel I
    demanded
    the duty manager show, which he did, Paul, after some 20 minutes
    wait (now past midnight) only to be told need to fill out a
    form.
    No forms to be had, so on scrap paper he took my details, I told
    him him for an international gatweway it was a disgrace, to
    which
    he agreed, and proceeded to tell me even though I paid cash I
    would
    receive an email or phone call from the powers that be, due to
    the
    super machines in the station, of which 6 were not working, that
    a
    refund would be forthcoming. I suggested a/ this may never
    happen,
    or b/ will but when I am in a coffin - looks like both of these
    could be right, as no correspondence whatsoever yet. It may be a
    small sum, just £7.90 change but for a £2.10 ticket it is a
    scam,
    of which in most places you would be held liable, criminally
    for.
    Therefore I call on the rail station manager at Gatwick to sort
    this matter out urgently, or in my capcaity of working in the
    industry will make this public knowledge. Principles are what
    make
    people angry, not the amount of loss, but the fact that it can
    happen and not be rectified at an international gateway is
    inexcusable

    ------------------

    Here is some information from FixMyTransport about the location
    of
    this issue:

    Location name: Gatwick Airport Rail Station

    Area: Gatwick Airport

    Easting: 528700.0

    Northing: 141300.0

    ----------

    To view a map of the precise location of this problem, or to
    provide an update on the problem, please visit the following
    link:

    http://www.fixmytransport.com/campaigns/2525

    [ PLEASE NOTE: Your replies to this problem report will be sent
    to
    Gary Hudson and will be published online. This message was sent
    via
    FixMyTransport.com - a not-for-profit service dedicated to
    helping
    people get public transport problems resolved. If there is a
    more
    appropriate email address for messages about this type of
    problem,
    please let us know by visiting
    . This will help improve
    the service for people travelling. We also welcome any other
    feedback you may have. ]

     

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by NetIQ
    MailMarshal.

    Southern Railway Ltd is registered in England No. 06574965.
    Registered office: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle Upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed here http://www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer

    Southern is the trading name of Southern Railway Ltd.
    Registered in England under number: 06574965
    Registered offices: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle upon
    Tyne, NE1 6EE.

    This email is sent subject to our email disclaimer which can be
    accessed at: [2]www.southernrailway.com/emaildisclaimer

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  • 6 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Gary Hudson close 09:16 23 Nov 2012
    Dear Sir/Madam,
    Thank you for your email. Your reference number is
    [73803-1351518697]

    We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. We have
    recently received a large number of enquiries so we are taking
    longer than normal to respond, however we’ll do our best to do
    so as quickly as possible. Please note that if you have sent us
    a Delay Repay claim, our team will aim to respond within 28
    days. If you have sent us a Refund claim, our team will aim to
    respond within 10 days. From 22 October, Southern will be
    operating a revised cycle policy. Restrictions apply to the
    carriage of non folding bikes from 07:00 – 10:00 and 16:00 –
    19:00 Monday to Friday. For details please check
    southernrailway.com/cyclepolicy

    Kind Regards,
    Southern Customer Services

    Reminder of your message:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    Good morning Naomi

    To be honest wasn't expecting any reply so well done for that,
    even though
    a later reply it is a reply which is more than some others would
    have done

    I did give all the information to the duty manager on the day
    but as so long ago now and we are talking change of £8.90, to
    expedite the process the £10 vouchers would be appreciated.
    Therefore please send the offered couchers to

    [address redacted from public site]

    It is appreciated and I will advise my travel colleagues that it
    may take time but you do actually investigate raised issues

    Have a good weekend

    Kind regards
    Gary

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  • 7 Southern Railways Customer Services responded to Gary Hudson close 08:55 14 Dec 2012
    Dear Mr Hudson

    Thank you for your reply with regards to the National Rail
    Vouchers, please accept my apology again for the delay in our
    response.

    I can confirm to you that National Rail Vouchers to the value of
    £10 have been sent to the address you provided to us.

    If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please
    contact our Customer Service team directly at
    [1][Southern problem reporting email], by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or
    in writing to:
    Southern Customer Services
    PO Box 3021
    Bristol
    BS2 2BS
    quoting ticket number [73803-1351518697] on all communication.

    For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter
    @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

    Kind regards

    Lori Dunn
    Southern Customer Services

    Your message :

    Good morning Naomi

    To be honest wasn't expecting any reply so well done for that,
    even though
    a later reply it is a reply which is more than some others would
    have done

    I did give all the information to the duty manager on the day
    but as so long ago now and we are talking change of £8.90, to
    expedite the process the £10 vouchers would be appreciated.
    Therefore please send the offered couchers to

    [address redacted from public site]

    It is appreciated and I will advise my travel colleagues that it
    may take time but you do actually investigate raised issues

    Have a good weekend

    Kind regards
    Gary

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