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Derek taylor

Caught the 7.10pm Virgin trains Euston to Holyhead last Thursday, the electronic seat numbers all showed "reserved" with a handful showing a name, most people were unable to get seats resulting in a large number of people standing and sitting around the corridors and toilet areas. ( Not a pleasant place to stand/sit at any time). My point is why display "reserved 2 signs when they clearly weren't reserved. The other point is that Virgin must be loosing a fortune because at no time did anyone check tickets at Euston, or on the train. I am not a frequent traveller, so I presume most treat this as the norm.

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  • 1 Derek taylor reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 08:52 20 Oct 2012
  • 2 Derek taylor wrote to Virgin Trains close 08:52 20 Oct 2012

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    Caught the 7.10pm Virgin trains Euston to Holyhead last Thursday, the electronic seat numbers all showed "reserved" with a handful showing a name, most people were unable to get seats resulting in a large number of people standing and sitting around the corridors and toilet areas. ( Not a pleasant place to stand/sit at any time). My point is why display "reserved 2 signs when they clearly weren't reserved. The other point is that Virgin must be loosing a fortune because at no time did anyone check tickets at Euston, or on the train. I am not a frequent traveller, so I presume most treat this as the norm.

  • 3 Relations, Customer responded to Derek taylor close 08:55 20 Oct 2012
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  • 4 Paul Hollinghurst commented close 20:31 20 Oct 2012

    Derek,
    Many tickets are sold with free reservations, but unless it is an 'Advance' ticket it is not compulsory to travel on that particular train. As a result many seats can end up being marked as reserved but the passenger will not turn up. Could this explain what you saw?
    Best regards,
    Paul (FixMyTransport Volunteer)

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  • 5 Virgin Trains Customer Relations responded to Derek taylor close 11:53 22 Oct 2012
    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Thank you for your email which we received on 20/10/2012 08:55.
    Your comments have been entered into our case management system
    under reference VT-0121020-FW4 and we will respond to you as
    soon as possible.

    We would be grateful if you would provide the information listed
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    your enquiry, or complaint more quickly.

    There is no need to reply if you included this information in
    your original email.

    1) Your full address, in case we need to send you a reply by
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    2) A scan or photo of your tickets, or some other proof of
    purchase for them (e.g. a copy of the email confirmation for
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    Regards

    Virgin Trains Customer Relations Team

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  • 6 Virgin Trains Customer Relations responded to Derek taylor close 11:43 29 Oct 2012
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    Customer Relations

    PO Box 713

    Birmingham

    B5 4HH

    Tel: 0845 000 8000

    Fax: 0121 654 7500

    Email: [Virgin Trains problem reporting email]

    Ref: VT-0121020-FW4

    Dear Mr Taylor,

    I am writing further to your recent online feedback via
    ‘FixMyTransport’ regarding your journey with us on Thursday
    18^th October 2012.

    It really is regrettable that the train you were travelling on
    was so busy; I do realise how unpleasant this will have been,
    and hope you will accept my apologies.

    We do not want customers to have to stand on one of our
    services, but our trains are designed to cope with this
    eventuality, having to meet many modern and stringent safety
    standards.  I think that it is fair to say most customers do
    prefer to travel on the first available train, rather than wait
    for an alternative service.

    The loadings on our trains are monitored very carefully, and we
    use discounted Advance tickets in order to encourage people to
    travel on what we know are quieter trains.  The challenge is
    that a proportion of the tickets we sell are very flexible,
    which means customers do not need a seat reservation before they
    join a train; this can make it difficult for us to know ahead of
    time exactly how many people may be on a particular service,
    especially if someone reserves a seat but travels on a different
    train altogether.

    I also understand your concerns about there being no ticket
    inspections made during your journey with us, and realise how
    disappointing this will have been.  We do ask Train Managers to
    make regular ticket checks as a part of their onboard duties,
    but may not always be able to reach every customer; however, our
    onboard policy, where we will only sell full price tickets once
    the train has started its journey, is also a powerful deterrent
    to ticketless travel.

    Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback; we hope
    your experience will not discourage you from using our services
    in future, and can welcome you aboard again soon.

    Yours sincerely,

    Lee Thacker

    Customer Relations

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  • 7 Derek taylor commented and marked the problem as fixed. close 12:06 01 Dec 2012

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