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“Please help me persuade Virgin Trains to reinstate the Stranraer Boat Train” – Phil Graham

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Phil Graham

I want Virgin Trains/Scotrail to work together to run a train from London Euston to Stranraer to connect for the ferry to Belfast and vice-versa.

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  • 1 Phil Graham reported the issue on FixMyTransport. close 15:56 30 Aug 2011
  • 2 Phil Graham wrote to Virgin Trains close 15:56 30 Aug 2011

    Here is the letter that Phil Graham wrote.

    Re-instate The Through Service from Euston to Stranraer

    Why can't the Euston to Stranraer boat train be re-instated? Travelling to Stranraer is not an easy task either having to change at Glasgow Central or Carlisle.

    Before privatisation there was a daily service from Euston to Stranraer to connect with the Stena Line to Belfast.

  • 3 Relations, Customer responded to Phil Graham close 16:01 30 Aug 2011
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  • 4 Myf Nixon commented close 16:49 30 Aug 2011

    Good luck Phil - sounds like an example of joined-up transport to me!

    anorak
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  • 5 Neil Gove commented close 18:48 30 Aug 2011

    Not much point in this as the ferries from Stranraer will stop from late 2011, and passengers will be bussed for about an hour and a quarter to the new port from Ayr.

  • 6 william perrin commented close 20:00 30 Aug 2011

    it's a long running saga this one - way back in 1970 even they threatened to withdraw the subsidy. - see link

    http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1970/jan/29/euston-stranraer-boat-train

    mind you without a ferry i don't fancy it's chances much

    anorak
  • 7 Relations, Customer responded to Phil Graham close 07:54 31 Aug 2011
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  • 8 Alex Fenlon commented close 15:48 31 Aug 2011

    Hello Phil,

    I believe there is a SailRail Scheme open for the route you want. Google it and the fares are about £35-£40 ish single. Double it and thats your return fare.

    I believe the new port they will be using though will not be in Ayr but will in fact be just up the road at Cairnryan.

    I have used SailRail in the past from Prestatyn to Dublin and it was a fantastic day out. Well worth the money.

    Alex
    Wolverhampton

  • 9 Neil Gove commented close 11:30 01 Sep 2011

    Yes, the new port is at Cairnryan, separate from the P&O port. But the railhead will be at Ayr (or possibly Girvan), with a bus trip of around 75 minutes to the port.

    No ferry passengers will need to go to Stranraer, so no need for a connecting rail service to there for the ferry.

  • 10 Sue Cartlidge commented close 00:17 18 Nov 2011

    Re-instatement of a train to Stranraer would be most welcome.

    Loch Ryan Port is only 7 miles away 10 minutes drive away. Tourism could do with a boost too including Ayr, so the idea is not so silly.

    In fact there ought to be a train from Doncaster to Stranraer which links the radials. Totally daft that to get to Leeds from Glasgow you go around the coast of Britain! (Glasgow-Edinburgh-Berwick-Newcastle-York-Leeds). What's wrong with the S&C?

  • 11 Peter Dixon commented close 20:16 18 Nov 2011

    Quite a bit is wrong with the Settle and Carlisle, chief being the lack of population between Leeds and Glasgow via Carlisle. The route is also quite slow. The route via Carlisle is not out of bounds to passengers using it but I think most users of the S&C would want more services before a Glasgow service. Stranraer is lucky to survive as a rail route with a poor connection into the rest of the transport network, with it being made worse by the ferry companies. The route needs to fight for survival,not demand direct services to different parts of the country.

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  • 12 Phil Graham commented close 20:47 18 Nov 2011

    I agree there is very little passenger traffic as there is on the S&C. Where I live, a train could run from Preston to Stranraer via the S&C then via the GSW route to Kilmarnock, and down to Stranraer which can be operated by either HST's or Voyagers.

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  • started 30 August 2011
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Train route between Preston and Stranraer operated by Virgin Trains
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